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Listen as Carla talks with therapist, Jackie Newman. They get curious about this idea that your Spirit is good and your Flesh is bad. Their curiosity leads to a discussion about how this idea has led to trauma in some church communities.

Email Carla at coffeeconversationcurosity@gmail.com

Find \"When I Loved Myself Enough\" by Kim McMillen here.

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Email Carla at coffeeconversationcurosity@gmail.com

Find \"When I Loved Myself Enough\" by Kim McMillen here.